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	<title>Comments on: How-To: Ensure consistent shifting all winter long</title>
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		<title>By: choke</title>
		<link>http://bluecollarmtb.com/2008/01/16/how-to-ensure-consistent-shifting-all-winter-long/comment-page-1/#comment-143596</link>
		<dc:creator>choke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, with very little practice, you'll have perfect shifts without even thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, with very little practice, you&#8217;ll have perfect shifts without even thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://bluecollarmtb.com/2008/01/16/how-to-ensure-consistent-shifting-all-winter-long/comment-page-1/#comment-143564</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I prefer to use friction shifters all year round.  I view it as a choice: either a simple mechanism that a human intelligence can easily control, or a complicated mechanism that is useless once broken.

Besides, if you use them enough, you get to the point where you can practically just flick at the lever and shift perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I prefer to use friction shifters all year round.  I view it as a choice: either a simple mechanism that a human intelligence can easily control, or a complicated mechanism that is useless once broken.</p>
<p>Besides, if you use them enough, you get to the point where you can practically just flick at the lever and shift perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://bluecollarmtb.com/2008/01/16/how-to-ensure-consistent-shifting-all-winter-long/comment-page-1/#comment-142676</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is beyond ghetto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is beyond ghetto</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://bluecollarmtb.com/2008/01/16/how-to-ensure-consistent-shifting-all-winter-long/comment-page-1/#comment-142450</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sram with thumb shifter is very hard to work properly.  I eventually switched to an old XTR rear derailer and durace thumb shifters with a Paul conversion kit.  It works awesome in the winter.  I did this because my Dad would not give up his Suntour thumbies to me.  Hey Dad if you are reading this give me back my Suntour group set Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sram with thumb shifter is very hard to work properly.  I eventually switched to an old XTR rear derailer and durace thumb shifters with a Paul conversion kit.  It works awesome in the winter.  I did this because my Dad would not give up his Suntour thumbies to me.  Hey Dad if you are reading this give me back my Suntour group set Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Choke</title>
		<link>http://bluecollarmtb.com/2008/01/16/how-to-ensure-consistent-shifting-all-winter-long/comment-page-1/#comment-142372</link>
		<dc:creator>Choke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm riding On-One's Midge flared drop bars with Dia Compe linear-pull dropbar brake levers &amp; LX rear derailleur and XT front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m riding On-One&#8217;s Midge flared drop bars with Dia Compe linear-pull dropbar brake levers &amp; LX rear derailleur and XT front.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Actually I think this is what you need: http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate_straight.htm" Thanks. Kind of like the Travel Agents for Vs and road levers. Yeah, I guess the 1:1 is more of a factor than I first surmised. When I compared the X9 to my XT, it appears that the X9s pivot positions are very different from the XT which makes the X9 move in a different arc.(?) But, I was drinking. Can anybody confirm this? (The arc, not my drinking)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually I think this is what you need: <a href="http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate_straight.htm" rel="nofollow">http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate_straight.htm</a>&#8221; Thanks. Kind of like the Travel Agents for Vs and road levers. Yeah, I guess the 1:1 is more of a factor than I first surmised. When I compared the X9 to my XT, it appears that the X9s pivot positions are very different from the XT which makes the X9 move in a different arc.(?) But, I was drinking. Can anybody confirm this? (The arc, not my drinking)</p>
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		<title>By: JoelGuelph</title>
		<link>http://bluecollarmtb.com/2008/01/16/how-to-ensure-consistent-shifting-all-winter-long/comment-page-1/#comment-142364</link>
		<dc:creator>JoelGuelph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I think this is what you need: http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate_straight.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I think this is what you need: <a href="http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate_straight.htm" rel="nofollow">http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate_straight.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: JoelGuelph</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoelGuelph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Quinn:  You can definitely get thumb shifter style that don't require you to remove your hands from the bar.  The one I linked to (for $7.50) would fit the bill or using something like the Paul's Thumbies (http://www.paulcomp.com/thumbmtn.html).  Mine is mounted to my top tube and I don't have a problem with it.  I guess I don't shift too often when commuting.

@Bill:  I'm fairly certain the reason it won't work is because the SRAM uses a 1:1 cable pull ratio and the Shimano is based on a different (2:1?) ratio.  You can check out the Jtek Shiftmates (http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm) although they look like they are "geared" towards road components.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Quinn:  You can definitely get thumb shifter style that don&#8217;t require you to remove your hands from the bar.  The one I linked to (for $7.50) would fit the bill or using something like the Paul&#8217;s Thumbies (http://www.paulcomp.com/thumbmtn.html).  Mine is mounted to my top tube and I don&#8217;t have a problem with it.  I guess I don&#8217;t shift too often when commuting.</p>
<p>@Bill:  I&#8217;m fairly certain the reason it won&#8217;t work is because the SRAM uses a 1:1 cable pull ratio and the Shimano is based on a different (2:1?) ratio.  You can check out the Jtek Shiftmates (http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm) although they look like they are &#8220;geared&#8221; towards road components.</p>
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		<title>By: Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, my kind of idea, "the less there is to go wrong, the less that will go wrong".
	the problem I would have is, I don't mind taking my hands off the bar, I Do mind keeping them off long enough to find the gear, maybe the difference is the new derailers (shrugs)

	Choke- what handle bar set-up do you 		use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting idea, my kind of idea, &#8220;the less there is to go wrong, the less that will go wrong&#8221;.<br />
	the problem I would have is, I don&#8217;t mind taking my hands off the bar, I Do mind keeping them off long enough to find the gear, maybe the difference is the new derailers (shrugs)</p>
<p>	Choke- what handle bar set-up do you 		use?</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note. I tried to set up a SRAM X9 rear derailleur with my vintage XT thumbies. They say this won't work. I now believe them. I thought because the derailleur was "dumb" and the shifter was "smart" that it wouldn't matter. Has anybody made something like this work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note. I tried to set up a SRAM X9 rear derailleur with my vintage XT thumbies. They say this won&#8217;t work. I now believe them. I thought because the derailleur was &#8220;dumb&#8221; and the shifter was &#8220;smart&#8221; that it wouldn&#8217;t matter. Has anybody made something like this work?</p>
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