Comments on: Take two steps back? http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/ Mountain Bike Reviews, News, Deals and How Tos Fri, 25 May 2012 00:38:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Vintønder http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-363867 Vintønder Fri, 06 May 2011 02:01:00 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-363867 Thank you so much for providing individuals with an exceptionally nice possiblity to check tips from this web site. It is often very great and as well , full of amusement for me and my office fellow workers to search the blog particularly three times weekly to find out the new stuff you have got. Of course, I’m so usually fascinated with the attractive pointers you serve. Some 3 facts in this posting are easily the most impressive we’ve had. Thank you so much for providing individuals with an exceptionally nice possiblity to check tips from this web site. It is often very great and as well , full of amusement for me and my office fellow workers to search the blog particularly three times weekly to find out the new stuff you have got. Of course, I’m so usually fascinated with the attractive pointers you serve. Some 3 facts in this posting are easily the most impressive we’ve had.

]]> By: velomatt http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-76436 velomatt Sun, 07 Jan 2007 02:01:54 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-76436 Ferris is late his XTR drivetrain brokedown 10 miles out ... Gnome you hit the nail on the head. One speed means less maintenace (tuning). Simple silent cycling on or off-road. No thinking about what gear to be in, just pedal. Free your mind and your ass will follow ! Ferris is late his XTR drivetrain brokedown 10 miles out …

Gnome you hit the nail on the head.

One speed means less maintenace (tuning).
Simple silent cycling on or off-road.
No thinking about what gear to be in, just pedal.
Free your mind and your ass will follow !

]]> By: gnome http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-76019 gnome Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:50:04 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-76019 Single Speed? Anyone? Bueller? Single Speed? Anyone? Bueller?

]]> By: Tim Grahl http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-75887 Tim Grahl Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:54:55 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-75887 Saw this post at Guitar Ted's site: http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2007/01/no-thanks-noreally.html I really hope ten speeds are nearing... Saw this post at Guitar Ted’s site:

http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2007/01/no-thanks-noreally.html

I really hope ten speeds are nearing…

]]> By: BearSquirrel http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-74823 BearSquirrel Mon, 01 Jan 2007 16:34:05 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-74823 The height of flimsy absurdity are so called "alloy" chainrings. These this wear like butter. Conversely, it's becoming difficult to find quality STEEL chainrings that have a chance of lasting a significant amount of time. Eight speed was the height of technology. The market seems to want everyone on 9 speed. And we all know that Shimano is prepping a 10-speed group for MTB at some point in the future. Give me back the equipment that we can just bang on and it will not be hurt! Grams ha!!!! I laugh at grams. Intact 34 pound bikes go WAY faster than broken 21 pound bikes. You get a better workout too!!! The height of flimsy absurdity are so called “alloy” chainrings. These this wear like butter. Conversely, it’s becoming difficult to find quality STEEL chainrings that have a chance of lasting a significant amount of time.

Eight speed was the height of technology. The market seems to want everyone on 9 speed. And we all know that Shimano is prepping a 10-speed group for MTB at some point in the future.

Give me back the equipment that we can just bang on and it will not be hurt! Grams ha!!!! I laugh at grams. Intact 34 pound bikes go WAY faster than broken 21 pound bikes. You get a better workout too!!!

]]> By: gwadzilla http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-74727 gwadzilla Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:47:06 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-74727 motorcross would be sweet... but I would still be slow and lack any finesse or beauty when it comes to technique and the issue of illegal trails well that would take things to another level 10 speed is just too light weight will wear down too fast and be more prone to break in a situation where a chain may be at risk of breaking it has become a joke like those razors MAXI-BLADE maybe there needs to be a link of a different color when that link fades or wears the user knows when it is time to change the chain so that the cassette can go through a number of chains rather than having to guess will the new chain work with the old cassette something to dumb it down for the more dim people out there WITH A REVOLUTIONARY 17 BLADES! FOR THAT MAXI-SHAVE! motorcross would be sweet…

but
I would still be slow and lack any finesse or beauty when it comes to technique

and the issue of illegal trails
well
that would take things to another level

10 speed is just too light weight
will wear down too fast
and be more prone to break in a situation where a chain may be at risk of breaking

it has become a joke like those razors

MAXI-BLADE

maybe there needs to be a link of a different color
when that link fades or wears the user knows when it is time to change the chain
so that the cassette can go through a number of chains
rather than having to guess will the new chain work with the old cassette
something to dumb it down for the more dim people out there
WITH A REVOLUTIONARY 17 BLADES!
FOR THAT MAXI-SHAVE!

]]> By: Grant http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-74709 Grant Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:40:38 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-74709 Some related rambling.... I hate having to learn first hand the actual cost of bike products. The MSRP on what's considered your average parts these days is indeed crazy. After doing the service on my one year old wonder fork and ending up with an oil leak, I think I'm done playing that game. Sometimes I think of the irony that as an in shape 160lb. guy I've somehow convinced myself that I NEED more light and pricey components to ride than I did when I started out at 235lbs and just blithely threw myself on the mercy of whatever rocky track I could find on my $600 Trek 930. Some related rambling….

I hate having to learn first hand the actual cost of bike products. The MSRP on what’s considered your average parts these days is indeed crazy. After doing the service on my one year old wonder fork and ending up with an oil leak, I think I’m done playing that game.

Sometimes I think of the irony that as an in shape 160lb. guy I’ve somehow convinced myself that I NEED more light and pricey components to ride than I did when I started out at 235lbs and just blithely threw myself on the mercy of whatever rocky track I could find on my $600 Trek 930.

]]> By: Jeff Powell http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-74499 Jeff Powell Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:53:23 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-74499 Personally I beleive that 9 speed drive trains are overkill,my last bike had 7 and that was plenty.As far as durability goes, I run mostly XT and some LX on my bikes,I comute all year long,here in Alaska that means alot of snow,ice and all around crappy conditions.In the summer a do alot of trail riding. My parts all hold up great.For most people the componets available today are better than we have ever had available.The bikes I had when I was a teen (I'm 44), never performed with the precesion of todays bikes.(and I had some nice ones).I personally beleive (because I have seen it first hand), that many people expect mountain bikes to take way more abuse than they were ever intended.We can't have it all, everyone seems to want lightweight parts that they can thrash that are cheap to boot ! Look, if you want a bicycle to take some of the abuse that some people that I have seen and read about in these forums, I think you need to sell your bike and get into motocross. Personally I beleive that 9 speed drive trains are overkill,my last bike had 7 and that was plenty.As far as durability goes, I run mostly XT and some LX on my bikes,I comute all year long,here in Alaska that means alot of snow,ice and all around crappy conditions.In the summer a do alot of trail riding. My parts all hold up great.For most people the componets available today are better than we have ever had available.The bikes I had when I was a teen (I’m 44), never performed with the precesion of todays bikes.(and I had some nice ones).I personally beleive (because I have seen it first hand), that many people expect mountain bikes to take way more abuse than they were ever intended.We can’t have it all, everyone seems to want lightweight parts that they can thrash that are cheap to boot ! Look, if you want a bicycle to take some of the abuse that some people that I have seen and read about in these forums, I think you need to sell your bike and get into motocross.

]]> By: Tim Grahl http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-74183 Tim Grahl Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:12:52 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-74183 Thanks everybody for the feedback. This subject originally came up when Guitar Ted and I had a chance to chat with Gary Fisher for awhile. Me and GTed kept kicking it around from time to time and then when doing an interview with Bicycle Bob Gregorio a couple days ago, taking two steps back was another topic of discussion. So we are in the midst of looking around for some good parts that fit this description to see if we can put together a Blue Collar project of some sort... I'll keep everyone informed. Thanks everybody for the feedback. This subject originally came up when Guitar Ted and I had a chance to chat with Gary Fisher for awhile. Me and GTed kept kicking it around from time to time and then when doing an interview with Bicycle Bob Gregorio a couple days ago, taking two steps back was another topic of discussion.

So we are in the midst of looking around for some good parts that fit this description to see if we can put together a Blue Collar project of some sort… I’ll keep everyone informed.

]]> By: Kris http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/comment-page-1/#comment-74133 Kris Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:19:17 +0000 http://bluecollarmtb.com/2006/12/27/take-two-steps-back/#comment-74133 My road bike has seven rear cogs, my mountain 9. I find that I'm in the middle of the rear cogset most of the time, rarely using the upper or lower extreme. I seem to shift much less on my road bike than on my mountain bike. I don't know that its subconcious, but the 7 rear cogs seems like more than enough. On a side note, how is that ATF lube working out? My road bike has seven rear cogs, my mountain 9. I find that I’m in the middle of the rear cogset most of the time, rarely using the upper or lower extreme. I seem to shift much less on my road bike than on my mountain bike. I don’t know that its subconcious, but the 7 rear cogs seems like more than enough.
On a side note, how is that ATF lube working out?

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